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1. MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 00:05:16 PDT MMN-o ✅⃠

   • the federated universe
   I am slightly uneased by the extreme increase of #Patreon advertisement in the !fediverse recently (since #Mastodon). What is this, a feudalverse?
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   • Bob Mottram (bob)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 00:30:43 PDT Bob Mottram

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     @mmn I've not used Patron, but an observation is that it only works well if you are "internet famous" and the fediverse architecture doesn't lend itself well to having millions of active followers. What I see in the fediverse is folks appealing for money among affinity groups who are just as poor as they are, which doesn't really work. A better model might be some sort of income sharing agreement system, comparable to the mutual societies which existed before unions became legal.
   • Shnoulle (shnoulle)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 00:36:36 PDT Shnoulle

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     • fediverse
     @mmn answer not related to patreon !fediverse have moved :) ( https://gnusocial.no/group/1189/id)
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   • Maiyannah Bishop (maiyannah)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 00:41:00 PDT Maiyannah Bishop

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     • Verius
     • Bob Mottram
     @bob I would say it depends on what your goal with the financial drives are.  People are more than happy to donate to help support their instance of choice because they know that the servers have cost.  People have been happy to support further development of postActiv as well, because they know that money passed in that context means I have less pressure to do other stuff to make ends meet and pay servers/etc, so I have more time to develop.
     
     But I think @verius put it well, albeit in another context - if you're looking for money to make something, people seem fine with supporting you.  If you make something to seek money, ie, inverting that, people are less likely to support you.  Also, most people in this culture are more likely to support things with at least semi-tangiable results (ie, "it helps support the software/server") than abstract concepts or just based on personality.  People in general seem more suspicious of people trying to "sell themselves" as a brand.
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   • Maiyannah Bishop (maiyannah)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 00:43:00 PDT Maiyannah Bishop

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     • Bob Mottram
     • Maiyannah Bishop
     @bob Personally one thing I would like to see is a proper open-source alternative to this - there are a few but they are all very regionally-based in the EU which doesn't help someone like me over in Canada.
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   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 00:46:06 PDT MMN-o ✅⃠

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     • Shnoulle
     @shnoulle Thanks! I remember now that I read about skilledtests finally going away but I never got myself to join the new group. I've done that now .)
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 00:48:00 PDT MMN-o ✅⃠

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     • Bob Mottram
     @bob I should make a Patreon account with the express purpose to end capitalism.
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   • dewoo~ (dwmatiz)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 00:50:43 PDT dewoo~

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     @mmn Liberapay > Patreon
   • zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 00:58:29 PDT zoowar

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     • the federated universe
     You decide who to follow. Block the beggars!
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 02:10:17 PDT MMN-o ✅⃠

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     • zoowar
     @zoowar Indeed that may have to be the final solution. Eliminate all opposing thought regimes.
   • AndStatus (andstatus)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jun-2017 10:29:33 PDT AndStatus

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     • Juanjo Faico
     @mmn Thank you for the tip :-)
     I like #Parteon also :-)