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@fla @paulfree14 Addendum: I was there at #Diaspora between 2012 / 2013 and 2016. Most time with the same topics as here also, with the difference that I host now #GNUsocial on my own. Most time topics and discussions about politics, society and an antithesis. But with this combination it's already a pity to discover that there are enough borders and when questioning some "major lovely toys" for example - talking about #Google or #YouTube - you'll get the corresponding feedback and people show up that they really don't care about protection. It's all about a masquerade and people invest more time posting some "cat-pictures" or proprietary links instead being part of the community. So far to my time at #Diaspora and last but not least when trying to standup against open said racism or antisemitism there are enough participants of the so-called community having problems doing that.
I have no doubt that there is some kind of community, but not for everyone and that's the point. Would I recommend #Diaspora to others? No, because of the given reasons above when searching for deep talks and discussions for a change. Yes, when searching for just another place playing with the own digital self-image.
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@fla @paulfree14 Thanks for the link to the guidelines. Have you some date when those were published initially? I can remember my time at #Diaspora being two years back then and there were enough very harsh discussions. Real antisemitism, racism and much more on pods like diasporabr.com.br for example! Furthermore there are enough profiles even today with transphobic and homophobic content.
From my point of view there has to be consequences: The freedom of speech is not limited, but has also borders. With my freedom I have NO further further right limitating the freedom and dignity of others! But that's the point: Enough profiles do this even today under the circumstance of "freedom of speech" and cry out loud "censorship" when somebody has words and reasonable arguments against that. People are really left alone when wanting to argument against racism and antisemitism, so #Diaspora is in NO WAY far more better or worse than #Facebook for example. "Be excellent to each other" is not enough and the given bullet points are also not enough to get a colorful community. It's just about having some time with the own profile to deal with for users when I had a look last time, the digital self-image is much more relevant than any kind of reasonable and good, deep discussion!
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@fla @paulfree14 I prefer not ignoring because the major problems in society (or part of it) won't go away. Besides I can understand that in some situations those functions can help getting some thoughts clear. But in general nothing will change and I got the feeling to build my own echochamber.
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@fla @paulfree14 Thanks!
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@throgh @fla perhaps Diaspora pods should think about having Terms of Use like these of quitter.se / quitter.no: https://quitter.no/attachment/1623176 and (careful) moderation.
A few loud abusers, trolls and spammers can turn a good place into a bad place if no-one cares.
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@mcscx2 @paulfree14 @fla Thanks for the picture and the ruleset. Exactly that's the point: #Diaspora is not a neutral piece of software and hosting a pod for more than private purpose is also some kind of responsibility. I had another discussion to read demonstrating the major problem of "freedom of speech". There are restrictions to be accepted: My freedom ends when it tends to restrict the one of others (including all earthlings), their dignity, their rights to handled fair and without discrimination.
Tobias Dausend
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